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More reasoned argument, etc., etc....
Wow. I musta made somebody's mail list or something. This one, I must answer...
You people are a bunch of fucking idiots I bet you're the same dumb bastards
that think Clinton and Gore were the best thing since sliced bread.
Actually, I disagreed with Clinton over a lot of things - his rollback of media consolidation rules in particular. Unlike you and your fellow emailers, who swallow every spoonful of crap the White House feeds you without question.
And for the record - given the choice between Clinton and sliced bread, I'd probably choose sliced bread. But that's just me.
Clinton screwed our economy, even Gore admitted it during the election process in
one of his speeches, and you blame Bush because it hit during the first 3
month of Bushes (sic) term.
No. I blame it on Bush because we're 3 years into his term and the economy is sca-rewed. Where'd those surpluses go? Where'd those 3 million jobs go? We're three years down the road, and Clinton isn't president any more. Poppy Bush used to use a term - 'on my watch' - and he took responsibility for things that happened during his presidency. His kid unfortunately never seemed to have learned that lesson. Shame.
Which by the way, it is imposable (sic) that he created the recession because he didn't even have time to change anything because of the time it takes to get something passed.
Yet I'm sure that, if asked, you'll attribute the military's success (such as it is) in Iraq and Afghanistan to Bush - even though he went into those battles fighting with Clinton's military. No less than Dick Cheney said exactly that.
You all need to get out of the fucking closet or of the toilet and support your god damn president and troops.
More Rightard logic - I criticize Bush, so I'm automatically gay. This would be howlingly funny if it weren't so goddam pathetic.
Replies: 7 people speak up
Well if you're not gay you must be French then.
Posted by salvage @ 12/05/2003 12:32 PM NY
The poor people attempting to assail the editor are making it painfully clear they are unable to hold a reasoned argument. Rather than appeal to reason or logic, they do what they always do: They appeal to emotion. attempting to manipulates peoples' emotions in order to get them to accept their baseless claims. When asked to address actual facts, they attack personally, usually with vulgarity.
Luckily for regular readers and supporters of this blog, it is easy to see through these appeals to emotion and vulgar personal attacks. It is also quite entertaining to watch the editor deal with them so handily.
To the "rightards" that will undoubtedly attack me for pointing this out, I suggest you arm yourselves with facts, rather than baseless opinions (or worse, the opinions of your fascist radio and television idols), appeals to emotion, and vulgar personal attacks. You'll come off sounding less idiotic and uninformed.
Posted by editorfan @ 12/05/2003 01:55 PM NY
Main Entry: false
Pronunciation: 'fols
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): fals·er; fals·est
Etymology: Middle English fals, from Old French & Latin; Old French, from Latin falsus, from past
participle of fallere to deceive Date: 12th century
1: not genuine
2a: intentionally untrue b: adjusted or made so as to deceive c: intended or tending to mislead
3: not true
4a: not faithful or loyal: TREACHEROUS b: lacking naturalness or sincerity
5a: not essential or permanent -- used of parts of a structure that are temporary or supplemental b: fitting over a main part to strengthen it, to protect it, or to disguise its appearance
6: inaccurate in pitch
7a: based on mistaken ideas b: inconsistent with the facts
8 : threateningly sudden or deceptive
synonym see FAITHLESS
- false·ly (adverb)
- false·ness (noun)
Main Entry: di·chot·o·my
Pronunciation: dI-'kä-t&-mE also d&-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -mies
Etymology: Greek dichotomia, from dichotomos
Date: 1610
1: a division or the process of dividing into two especially mutually exclusive or contradictory groups or entities
2: the phase of the moon or an inferior planet in which half its disk appears illuminated
3a: BIFURCATION; especially: repeated bifurcation (as of a plant's stem) b: a system of branching in which the main axis forks repeatedly into two branches c: branching of an ancestral line into two equal diverging branches
4: something with seemingly contradictory qualities
False Dichotomy. Considering only the two extremes in a continuum of intermediate possibilities. Considered to be a fallacy of logic in the excluded middle category.
Posted by Stentor @ 12/05/2003 04:45 PM NY
Main Entry: false
Pronunciation: 'fols
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): fals·er; fals·est
Etymology: Middle English fals, from Old French & Latin; Old French, from Latin falsus, from past
participle of fallere to deceive Date: 12th century
1: not genuine
2a: intentionally untrue b: adjusted or made so as to deceive c: intended or tending to mislead
3: not true
4a: not faithful or loyal: TREACHEROUS b: lacking naturalness or sincerity
5a: not essential or permanent -- used of parts of a structure that are temporary or supplemental b: fitting over a main part to strengthen it, to protect it, or to disguise its appearance
6: inaccurate in pitch
7a: based on mistaken ideas b: inconsistent with the facts
8 : threateningly sudden or deceptive
synonym see FAITHLESS
- false·ly (adverb)
- false·ness (noun)
Main Entry: di·chot·o·my
Pronunciation: dI-'kä-t&-mE also d&-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -mies
Etymology: Greek dichotomia, from dichotomos
Date: 1610
1: a division or the process of dividing into two especially mutually exclusive or contradictory groups or entities
2: the phase of the moon or an inferior planet in which half its disk appears illuminated
3a: BIFURCATION; especially: repeated bifurcation (as of a plant's stem) b: a system of branching in which the main axis forks repeatedly into two branches c: branching of an ancestral line into two equal diverging branches
4: something with seemingly contradictory qualities
False Dichotomy. Considering only the two extremes in a continuum of intermediate possibilities. Considered to be a fallacy of logic in the excluded middle category.
Posted by Stentor @ 12/05/2003 04:50 PM NY
With illiterates like your detractor, I'm beginning to feel like a friggin' genius! These guys wouldn't know proper grammar if it bit them on the ass, and I'm from a working-class background.
Posted by Metropolitan99 @ 12/05/2003 06:08 PM NY
Well, there was another reason that Bush the elder took responsibility for stuff under his watch: he had to. It would have been the height of GOP heresy for him to blame the policies of Saint Reagan. Mind you, it would have had a bit of accuracy to it, seeing as he was driving the Reagan cart that was destined to go into the ditch. But only a little accurate, since someone had to pull it out.
Posted by Dr. Squid @ 12/06/2003 11:20 AM NY
I love the bit about how the economy can't be Shrub's fault, as it takes x number of years for economic decisions to play out. That statement in and of itself shows how little of a grasp on facts (and economics in specific) he has. That whole lie came about during the Nixon years, and has been used to lay blame and pass the buck since then
Posted by dj dissent @ 12/07/2003 11:50 AM NY
