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Disconnect.
Did these guys watch the same press conference I watched?
Newsday: 'Bush forceful On Iraq'
NY Times: Bush Asserts 'We Must Not Waver'
MSNBC: Bush Strongly Defends US Position on Iraq
Sorry, guys, I watched it. He sucked. He could barely string a sentence together.
I gotta sit down. All this spin is making me dizzy.
Replies: 18 people speak up
OK he missed it by 20 years but Mr. Orwell pretty much hit it on the nose.
This does not look good.
Posted by slimharpo @ 04/14/2004 01:55 AM NY
It pretty much proves that the entire broadcast media and Washington press corp are capable of only dissiminating approved scripts and spin. I hate to admit it but if I was a fat cat on the media payroll, I wonder if I would be spinning too to keep the paychecks coming in. I would hope to have the courage of people like Paul Krugman and not march in that 4th column we call the 'liburl media'.
Posted by gammarock @ 04/14/2004 06:40 AM NY
Surprisingly, NIGHTLINE did a rather good job. Good enough that it should be mandatory viewing for all voters!
For a "press conference", Bush used 17 or more minutes to push his "message". Nightline pointed out that Bush did not answer ANY of the dozen(or less) questions!
They also showed a damning selection of "bites" from previous press conferences, including Bush commenting "this is scripted"!
Posted by smkngman1 @ 04/14/2004 08:09 AM NY
As usuall none of you would have been happy with any speech he would have given. Short of "I quit" and "your right". That aside he did a fair job, not great however. He did answer all of the questions, just not with replies A: that the left wanted to hear or B: that the right wanted to hear..
Bush was not responsible for 9/11 , osama bin pigcrap was, its been repeated over and over by left, right, center, it still would have happened.
We are all to blame, we want all the freedom we can get and paid the price. Now we have the Patriot act and allow agencies to communicate with one another, yes we lost freedoms. It's funny that one of the people on the committee actually wrote the laws that prevented communication. Asscroft (sp) could have done away with it,,,,,,,, but would the left have allowed it pre 9/11? You cant have it both ways ladies and gents, we lost people , we will recover, we will be strong.
On a side note, Has kerryco come forward on his health issues yet? He won't release all his records. Speculation is he has cancer again. Which he denied , then admitted to , then the surgery on his arm/ shoulder also the need to re-energize etc. Where is the open policy now?
Posted by Robin Hacker @ 04/14/2004 08:38 AM NY
Robin,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
A 'fair job?' Go back and look at the answer to 'what was your biggest mistake?' He was lost.
The easiest way to reveal a sociopath is to get him to share his emotions. Bush simply didn't have any.
Posted by editor @ 04/14/2004 09:16 AM NY
Apparently Robin's idea of "answering questions" is "saying *something* after the questions are asked, even if what is said has nothing to do with the actual questions."
Posted by Tina @ 04/14/2004 09:26 AM NY
Take heed of what good people of this country face. Bush was chosen for his simple mindedness. This lets the big money / big business fill in the blanks. Your quoted headlines are just the beginning of the spin.
Posted by Aristophanes @ 04/14/2004 09:37 AM NY
I noticed Robin didn't leave her email address - hmmmmmmm.
Posted by Barry Ingram @ 04/14/2004 10:10 AM NY
there's my e-mail
Like I said none of you here would or will be happy
Now on to the Kerryco health issue. Has anyone heard of the problem or is it bluesky?
Posted by Robin Hacker @ 04/14/2004 11:40 AM NY
Robin,
For six months following 9-11 (which had a very personal impact on me) I was fervently pro-Bush. I would not tolerate even the slightest criticism of either him or his administration. I alienated the hell out of my co-workers (back when I actually had a full-time job). But even during the height of my pro-Bush delirium, I realized that Bush was a terrible public speaker and a bit of an intellectual lightweight.
By the spring of 2002 I experienced a change of heart and started to conclude that Bush was a loser, a manipulator, and an incompetent boob. Like St. Paul on the Road to Damascus, when will you see the light?
Posted by Metropolitan99 @ 04/14/2004 12:57 PM NY
Metro
I didnt say I was a huge supporter of Bush. I do not believe all that is spun on him.
I do not believe ANYONE could have stopped 9/11
I do not believe Bush owes the families of the 9/11 an apology
I do not believe Bush has any hidden agenda ( light weight intellectual)
I do not believe anything he says or does is going to appease anyone on the left
I do beleive 9/11 was on the CIA and the FBI ( restrictions or not)
I do believe 9/11 cost american jobs
I do believe the economy is getting better
I do beleive Iraq has WMD's ( Libya had tons of nerve gas in a turkey farm )
I do beleive Iraq is going to have a civil war ( before the election )
I do beleive Kerry has cancer and is hiding it ( he wont release his medical records, why isnt the left on this issue? )
other than spin from the left, that many of you quote quite well. Post your predictions and what YOU believe not the spin, your own thoughts ! ! ! !
one last thing
I do believe I'm male lmao
Posted by Robin Hacker @ 04/14/2004 01:30 PM NY
I didn’t say I was a huge supporter of Bush. I do not believe all that is spun on him.
>> I DO believe the anti-Bush spin and lots, lots more. > I DO believe that 9-11 could POSSIBLY have been averted. > He should, at least, make a private apology. The man is incapable of admitting to any mistakes whatsoever. Reminds me of my strict Catholic upbringing: Papal Infallibility. > I believe Bush’s agenda is to transform America into a pre-1999 Hong Kong-style free-for-all “T.S.” (tough shit) capitalist, free market state. > I don’t believe ANYTHING Bush says. > If the FBI and/or the CIA were negligent re 9-11, why wasn’t anyone fired? > Agreed. I’m one of the many victims. > Yes, it is. But not for everyone. Any new jobs are probably at a much lower wage scale. > Fantasy. > Agreed. > That’s news to me. But, if true, I prefer a diseased Kerry to a healthy Bush (an alcoholic and a former coke-head). > I am a Leftist on political and economic issues, but ultra-conservative on issues of personal morality and behavior (again, it must be my strict Catholic upbringing). > I, too, am male. I’m also heterosexual, middle-class (thanks to my wife’s income), white, and Christian.
How I love these exchanges!
Posted by Metropolitan99 @ 04/14/2004 08:01 PM NY
Metro
With Richard Clarke saying it could not, he was the top guru about this stuff. I can't wait for your pearls of wisdom on this one, of just how YOU think it could have been prevented?
You have a link for the lower wage scale jobs?
Why should Bush apologize at all, didnt some towel heads drive the planes?
No one was fired because no one had all the pieces.
Do you have a link for anything or some support?
the male part was because someone said she. I dont personally care if your a colored gay transvestite wife swapping homeless bum.
Posted by Robin Hacker @ 04/14/2004 08:56 PM NY
Dear Robin,
You are a grade-A idiot.
Kisses,
Mykull
Posted by mykull @ 04/15/2004 12:13 AM NY
No thanks; on the kisses, not even on my ass
Thank you for saying I was getting warm though. I know this because when the left starts calling personal names as a retort rather than a factual response. You know your close to the mark anyway.
Just Thanks will do
Posted by Robin Hacker @ 04/15/2004 07:30 AM NY
Dear Robin,
You are still an idiot.
Smooches,
Mykull
Posted by mykull @ 04/15/2004 10:34 PM NY
Pearls for Robin.
Clarke said
1. The plan he presented in January 2001 would not have prevented 9/11.
AND
2. Going to “battle stations” in the summer of 2001 might have prevented the attack.
You gotta read the transcripts or book and/or watch his testimony to keep up with what he said.
Still waiting to hear anyone who can legitimately dispute any staements Clarke has made.
DK2
Posted by DK2 @ 04/16/2004 01:21 AM NY
GORTON: Now, since my yellow light is on, at this point my final question will be this: Assuming that the recommendations that you made on January 25th of 2001, based on Delenda, based on Blue Sky, including aid to the Northern Alliance, which had been an agenda item at this point for two and a half years without any action, assuming that there had been more Predator reconnaissance missions, assuming that that had all been adopted say on January 26th, year 2001, is there the remotest chance that it would have prevented 9/11?
CLARKE: No.
Now read it
He does go on and say if and maybe only to cover his own ass. He is selling a book, there is no more that anyone can say than what Mr. Clarkes actions speak.
Posted by Robin Hacker @ 04/16/2004 08:20 AM NY
