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04/20/2004 Archived Entry: "Bush 2004 = Draft 2005"
Bush 2004 = Draft 2005
Even Republican Chuck Hagel says so.
A senior Republican lawmaker said that deteriorating security in Iraq may force the United States to reintroduce the military draft."There's not an American ... that doesn't understand what we are engaged in today and what the prospects are for the future," Senator Chuck Hagel told a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on post-occupation Iraq.
"If that's the case, why shouldn't we ask all of our citizens to bear some responsibility and pay some price?" Hagel said, arguing that restoring compulsory military service would force "our citizens to understand the intensity and depth of challenges we face."
Replies: 24 people speak up
clarifications for Hagel
"what we are engaged in today":
a quagmire sucking resources like there's no tomorrow
"what the prospects are for the future": a less secure America, especially if Bush is elected this year (or obtains 4 more years by some other means)
And I just can't beleive he said that we need to "ask all of our citizens to bear some responsibility and pay some price"---how about Bush & co. bearing some responsibility and paying some price for a change?
And force "our citizens to understand..."? unbelievable, someone else please say something
Posted by LML @ 04/20/2004 12:48 PM NY
MUST. . . CALM. . . DOWN. . . MUST. . . CALM. . . DOWN. . . no, fuck that! RRAAARRRGH HULK SMASH!
Okay, that's better. I vote we ship his ass off to Iraq. He did say "all of our citizens," didn't he?
>>Raijin
Posted by None @ 04/20/2004 01:02 PM NY
I agree. Ship him out sans armored vest like the rest of the troops.
What an ass!
Posted by Allison @ 04/20/2004 01:06 PM NY
Hey editor-- "Bush 2004 = Draft 2005" sounds like the start of a great T-Shirt. I'd personally buy ten. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if some freeway bloggers use that slogan.
(Anybody know when this horsefucker comes up for reelection? His own words could be used in a kickass attack ad.)
We need more Question Marks! :-D How many more dead young people does this country need before it realizes enough is enough?
>>Raijin
Posted by Raijin>> @ 04/20/2004 01:15 PM NY
I'm draft age and and I will not go die or lose a limb for George W. Bush or his oil crusade!
Posted by Smafty @ 04/20/2004 01:18 PM NY
I think I'm beyond draft age. But I wouldn't go anyway. Let me put it like this; if this administration were on fire, I wouldn't piss on 'em to put it out.
Posted by Deadhead Scott @ 04/20/2004 01:27 PM NY
The video ought to be made into a TV commecial and shown 24/7. Let's see how middle-America really feels about this mess.
JC
Posted by JC @ 04/20/2004 01:49 PM NY
I have a 12 year old son and have been worried SICK for months about the possibility of these asshats renewing the draft. I'll fight tooth and nail to keep my kid out of this mess. I can see this damn quagmire dragging on for years until my son's saftey is at stake and he's old enough for them to try and grab.
Posted by JBean @ 04/20/2004 02:03 PM NY
Wrong? well sure it is, but...
In the past history has shown us that the herd needs thinninh periodically. With the advent of higher medicine less fall by the wayside from sickness and disease which leaves only famine and war to effectively thin the herd. Here in america you could indeed find some hungry people but for the majority we are all well fed. As such that only leaves war to thin the herd.
Did I say it was right? It goes back to the call of the wild issues. In nature old monkeys get beaten down by younger monkeys who take leadership through dominance of the troop. In civilizied society we have done away with this aspect of our primate natures and instead have allowed the old monkeys to insure their place by sending the younger monkeys off to fight other troops thereby thinning the herd and perpetuating the old monkeys lifestyle.
Posted by IXLNXS @ 04/20/2004 02:04 PM NY
Raijin, Do not shoot the messenger. It's about time people face up to the real costs of this wacko President's actions.
JC
Posted by JC @ 04/20/2004 02:37 PM NY
I totally, enthusiastically, and unequivocally support the draft. Did I mention that I'm 49? War is so much more fun when someone else is doing the fighting and dying.
Not to worry, you young sons of the wealthy and powerful, the draft will not apply to you.
Posted by Metropolitan99 @ 04/20/2004 02:46 PM NY
The messenger? No-- Yahoo News would be the messenger. This guy's advocating the message. At that point he becomes an agent of the message's originator. BOTH of them need to go.
>>Raijin
Posted by >>Raijin @ 04/20/2004 02:49 PM NY
I'm also draft age and I'll be going out soon to buy a nice expensive Zippo lighter to burn draft papers with. I'll go to jail before I fight some dumb bosses' war.
No one should run to Canada, that lets the government off too fucking cheap. Arresting a hundred thousand people will be expensive. I doubt they'll be able to do it.
Posted by C Bryan Lavigne @ 04/20/2004 02:55 PM NY
If we start a draft, why not send all republicans first since it's their war anyways???
Posted by Thom @ 04/20/2004 06:28 PM NY
Brilliant plan; I can only applaud the stupidity of it.
Just one more reason to be meme to the President...
But this one - and you MAY steal the idea and the graphic (just ask if you want it) underlines my view that the President has truly screwed the pooch.
Posted by Bob King @ 04/20/2004 06:48 PM NY
Oops...
Meme Link: Ethics 404
Posted by Bob King @ 04/20/2004 06:53 PM NY
Gee do we have to do this again? Please join together in teaching our sons and daughters the following:
"Hell no we won't go"
Posted by Demeur @ 04/20/2004 08:19 PM NY
how did the richest nation on earth also become the loudest and most ignorant.
teaching people slogans such as "hell no we wont go" would be pointless. the entire peace movement is just a sick pantomime of the anti vietnam movement. people are just copying what they have seen on television. our culture is stuck in a deadly feed back loop more commonly called postmodernism. the belief that everything has already been done and nothing will ever be new is killing us, and not slowly. every thing has become either a commentary, an homage, or a parody of something that has already been done. as a nation we are no longer capable, nor even willing to have a new idea, or try something different. it just makes me sick to see western civilization die like this after a few thousand years of foreward motion. oh well, shit happens. see you all in hell
Posted by justin @ 04/20/2004 09:40 PM NY
No justin it's our history that is stuck in a loop and we've learned nothing from it!
Posted by Demeur @ 04/21/2004 12:29 AM NY
Draft the Twins First!
Posted by George Johnston @ 04/21/2004 01:54 AM NY
Special Services draft: "The agency already has in place a special system to register and draft health care personnel ages 20 to 44 in more than 60 specialties if necessary in a crisis. According to Flahavan, the agency will expand this system to be able to rapidly register and draft computer specialists and linguists, should the need ever arise."
Posted by Allison @ 04/21/2004 08:42 AM NY
good thing im an american (meaning that i only speak english) so i wont get drafted as a linguist. even if i did speak arabic, i would probobly just make shit up instead of translating. its not like any of the americans over there would really listen to anything anyone who isnt an american has to say anyway.
Posted by justin @ 04/21/2004 10:25 AM NY
Canada isnt even an option for you libral people read about the 2001 smart border plan. Im of draft age but guess what im signing up o my own so i dont really give a rats ass anywho. so quit your bitching tree hugers war is fun you just need to think of it as a big game
Posted by Sic6sic @ 04/24/2004 04:48 AM NY
Aaahh Sic6sic, it'll be just like a game. You'll be lying there planning your next move in the game while blood pours from your body and your detatched limbs twitch in front of your eyes. Fucking hilarious, from my point of view anyway.
Posted by MMPR @ 04/26/2004 11:25 AM NY
